with a short video here. Perhaps less confident in Japanese than he was after 6 weeks in some of his other Fluent In Three Months language challenges, but he has been ill, and he sounds confident about the second half of the challenge.
Speaking fluently has never been the aim of any of my language learning; for me a language is text, not sounds. This is probably the wrong way to go about it but it's far too late for me to change now. Certainly with Japanese it's the fascinating writing system that got me interested, and of the books on Japanese that I have that try to introduce the writing system simultaneously with basic grammar and vocabulary, many make the reasonable point that since kanji are what attracts so many to the language it's a shame to defer study of the writing system until there's been a lot of the spoken language covered.
Thursday, October 31, 2013
Monday, September 30, 2013
Not much energy for language learning at the moment...
So am likely to be quiet on here for a little while unless I suddenly manage to pick up momentum with Japanese again. Keep meaning to go back to Duolingo and tinker with German again, and if Duolingo delivers the long-promised Chinese course, I might have a go at that. A recent article claims that they're hoping to add up to 50 languages within the next few months, via the magic of crowdsourcing. This sounds ambitious, but we shall see.
Tuesday, September 17, 2013
Benny's Japanese Mission
Benny Lewis has announced that he's aiming to get to B2 level in Japanese (with emphasis on conversational skills rather than reading and writing) in the next three months. Should be entertaining to read, and he does good videos. Previously on his site: Scott and Vat try to spend a year speaking only Spanish/Portugese/Chinese/Korean; no English talking at all. This is probably brilliant for fluency but would drive me insane.
Monday, July 15, 2013
More miscellaneous stuff
There's a lifetime's worth of reading to be found on openlibrary.org (which provides a reasonable interface to the books scanned at archive.org ) so long as you're willing to put up with not very good metadata and some scanning that isn't as good as it could be. I was pleased to find this book, published a century ago, which gives lovely illustrations of 'grassy' soosho script; after flicking through a few dozen pages you begin to see the way that this style of handwriting works, even though you recognize it'll be a hell of an uphill struggle to really come to terms with it.
Am up to chapter 4 (of 20) in O'Neill and Yanada's An Introduction To Written Japanese; this is the first chapter where I've had to take things slowly. The first chapter uses hiragana, the kanji for numbers 1-10, and very simple words; the second and third chapters introduce 20 and 30 kanji respectively (and the second chapter perversely uses katakana where hiragana would normally be used - some later chapters of the book do this too, to give you more practice in katakana than you'd otherwise get). Chapter 4 introduces 40 more kanji, and there are 40-50 new kanji each lesson up to lesson 16: the last 4 lessons introduce no new kanji but use some pre-simplification kanji and the older okurigana usage. The book says it uses 680 kanji in total; it's one of the tradeoffs of having a short graded reader that a lot of new kanji and vocabulary is going to be introduced very rapidly, and it's at chapter 4 that one starts to sense a combinatorial explosion, with too much going on simultaneously to cope with easily. Perhaps I should go back to Heisig for a while.
Flicking through RTK2 the other day, was pleased to 'learn' a Japanese word that millions of British people learned long ago in the 80s: 'roll-call' is 'tenko', or 点呼. A well-remembered BBC TV series (Wikipedia) taught us the word.
Am up to chapter 4 (of 20) in O'Neill and Yanada's An Introduction To Written Japanese; this is the first chapter where I've had to take things slowly. The first chapter uses hiragana, the kanji for numbers 1-10, and very simple words; the second and third chapters introduce 20 and 30 kanji respectively (and the second chapter perversely uses katakana where hiragana would normally be used - some later chapters of the book do this too, to give you more practice in katakana than you'd otherwise get). Chapter 4 introduces 40 more kanji, and there are 40-50 new kanji each lesson up to lesson 16: the last 4 lessons introduce no new kanji but use some pre-simplification kanji and the older okurigana usage. The book says it uses 680 kanji in total; it's one of the tradeoffs of having a short graded reader that a lot of new kanji and vocabulary is going to be introduced very rapidly, and it's at chapter 4 that one starts to sense a combinatorial explosion, with too much going on simultaneously to cope with easily. Perhaps I should go back to Heisig for a while.
Flicking through RTK2 the other day, was pleased to 'learn' a Japanese word that millions of British people learned long ago in the 80s: 'roll-call' is 'tenko', or 点呼. A well-remembered BBC TV series (Wikipedia) taught us the word.
Tuesday, June 4, 2013
Corpora
This 280KB text file at Leeds University gives the 15,000 commonest words from a corpus of Japanese text, for a vague value of 'words' (there are some odd symbols and punctuation quite high up the list). Might be useful. It'd be mildly interesting to do statistical crunches of the range of kanji used in the list. Many more corpora for various languages here.
Monday, May 27, 2013
The art of memory
I've just reread Joshua Foer's Moonwalking with Einstein, his account of competing in memory tournaments. He discusses the history of memory techniques, from their golden age in antiquity to their decline as literacy and printing removed most of the need for them, to their modest revival among enthusiasts and competitors today. It's an informative read and also a good-natured one, in its polite American way: I fear that a British journalist spending time among the memorizers and mnemonic-system-builders would be very careful to do the usual Brit journalistic point-and-chortle from a safe distance, pulling rank on the friends that he made during his research in order to mock their geekiness for the amusement of the readership. American journalists don't seem to do this as much, thank God. (See also Word Freak by Stefan Fatsis, a tale of competitive Scrabble that's similarly sympathetic to the individuals involved).
When I was a kid I read in a computer magazine, probably Your Computer or Acorn User, an account of language-learning software that used the Gruneberg Linkword system, a basic method of punning on foreign words in order to learn their English translations. I got into the habit of using this almost subconsciously when learning French and Latin vocabulary at school, and it must have helped. ('Learn this vocabulary', the teacher always says. But how?)
After a brief flurry of activity, my attempt to get through Teach Yourself Japanese, the 1958 edition, has ground to a halt again, round about chapter 6 or 7. I'm never going to get through this with good-student diligence so it's time to try something else. The problem seems to be that after the first few chapters, the mental load of learning both new vocabulary and new grammar is too much. I enjoy flicking through the book and picking up grammar from it, but it's just too hard to learn the grammar and the vocabulary simultaneously chapter-by-chapter: there's too much going on. So, why not have a go at learning the vocabulary all at once? The glossary at the end of the book contains over 3000 items, which would be a bit much to bite off in one go, but the vocabulary at the end of An Introduction To Written Japanese, which is the book that I want to work through to get reasonable facility in the written language, has about half as many words. That's kind of workable. So: perhaps learn all the vocab in the book about writing, keep drilling it to memorize it, and start working through the book and learning the writing system. I'll have to use TYJ for the grammar explanations, but having half the vocabulary down pat will be helpful and I can always start trying to learn all the words in its glossary if I'm feeling cocky.
It's odd that I haven't thought of doing this before. Japanese writing, everyone knows, requires a lot of learning by rote. There's no way around this; it's a bridge that you have to cross. But rote learning of romanized vocabulary... funny that I'd never considered doing this. It's the first non-Indo-European language that I've ever tried learning so it's hardly odd that I'm having trouble getting the words to stick, and the quite large number of imported English nouns doesn't take one very far.
Still aiming to have some definite results by the end of August, by which I think I mean I ought to be able to have a go at most Japanese text with the help of a dictionary or fancy dictionary-Javascript-bookmarklet-plugin-thingy and get most of the sense. As for listening comprehension: that's never been my forte with languages and we'll have to see how it goes.
When I was a kid I read in a computer magazine, probably Your Computer or Acorn User, an account of language-learning software that used the Gruneberg Linkword system, a basic method of punning on foreign words in order to learn their English translations. I got into the habit of using this almost subconsciously when learning French and Latin vocabulary at school, and it must have helped. ('Learn this vocabulary', the teacher always says. But how?)
After a brief flurry of activity, my attempt to get through Teach Yourself Japanese, the 1958 edition, has ground to a halt again, round about chapter 6 or 7. I'm never going to get through this with good-student diligence so it's time to try something else. The problem seems to be that after the first few chapters, the mental load of learning both new vocabulary and new grammar is too much. I enjoy flicking through the book and picking up grammar from it, but it's just too hard to learn the grammar and the vocabulary simultaneously chapter-by-chapter: there's too much going on. So, why not have a go at learning the vocabulary all at once? The glossary at the end of the book contains over 3000 items, which would be a bit much to bite off in one go, but the vocabulary at the end of An Introduction To Written Japanese, which is the book that I want to work through to get reasonable facility in the written language, has about half as many words. That's kind of workable. So: perhaps learn all the vocab in the book about writing, keep drilling it to memorize it, and start working through the book and learning the writing system. I'll have to use TYJ for the grammar explanations, but having half the vocabulary down pat will be helpful and I can always start trying to learn all the words in its glossary if I'm feeling cocky.
It's odd that I haven't thought of doing this before. Japanese writing, everyone knows, requires a lot of learning by rote. There's no way around this; it's a bridge that you have to cross. But rote learning of romanized vocabulary... funny that I'd never considered doing this. It's the first non-Indo-European language that I've ever tried learning so it's hardly odd that I'm having trouble getting the words to stick, and the quite large number of imported English nouns doesn't take one very far.
Still aiming to have some definite results by the end of August, by which I think I mean I ought to be able to have a go at most Japanese text with the help of a dictionary or fancy dictionary-Javascript-bookmarklet-plugin-thingy and get most of the sense. As for listening comprehension: that's never been my forte with languages and we'll have to see how it goes.
Wednesday, May 1, 2013
Vague plan...
Try to work through approximately the first half of the 1958 Teach Yourself Japanese with reasonable diligence and not get bogged down round chapters 8 or 9 as I usually do. Keep notes and try to remember vocabulary and grammar nuggets; also try to keep translating in head from TYJ's transliteration to Hepburn and vice versa. When I'm confident enough, start alternating study of later chapters of TYJ with chapters of the O'Neill and Yanada An Introduction to Written Japanese. Keep drilling the kana so they don't slip away from me as they usually do. Learn the kanji as O'Neill and Yanada introduce them, but use Heisig for review and to peek ahead and learn meanings (though not readings) of kanji in advance. Once I've finished both books, err, do something else. Might throw Jorden and Chaplin's Reading Japanese into the mix too. Then maybe the Miller A Japanese Reader?
I do need to throw myself at Japanese a bit, if only because I'm finding reading the news these days pretty depressing and want to steer myself away from it. Reading a newspaper once a day or listening to the radio news ought to be enough to keep me informed without wallowing in awfulness. Burying myself in language textbooks from the 50s and 60s is one way out of it.
I'd like to have seen some sort of solid achievement by, say, the end of August.
I do need to throw myself at Japanese a bit, if only because I'm finding reading the news these days pretty depressing and want to steer myself away from it. Reading a newspaper once a day or listening to the radio news ought to be enough to keep me informed without wallowing in awfulness. Burying myself in language textbooks from the 50s and 60s is one way out of it.
I'd like to have seen some sort of solid achievement by, say, the end of August.
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